Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/31/1999 03:12 PM Senate RES

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                 HJR 11-ENDORSING ANWR LEASING                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD announced HJR 11 to be up for consideration.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. JUDY JORDAN, Aide for Representative Gail Phillips, noted that                                                              
her sponsor statement was in their packets.  Similar legislation                                                                
has passed in previous legislatures and Representative Phillips                                                                 
wanted to reaffirm this legislature's support and give the                                                                      
opportunity to new legislators to express their support for it.                                                                 
She was concerned, also, that new members of congress understand                                                                
that Alaska is strongly behind opening of ANWR.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. JULIE RAYMOND YAKOUBIAN, Fairbanks resident, opposed HJR 11.                                                                
The coastal plain is important to protect.  It has a few hundred                                                                
species of birds and has musk oxen, polar bears, and the Porcupine                                                              
caribou herd.  The coastal plain is important culturally for the                                                                
people who depend on the Porcupine caribou herd.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRENDEN RAYMOND YAKOUBIAN opposed HJR 11.  He wanted them to                                                                
keep three words in mind when thinking about oil development in the                                                             
Alaska Arctic.  The first is economy.  It makes little sense to                                                                 
drill oil because it subjects us to the boom and bust cycle of the                                                              
oil market.  The second "e" is ecology.  Scientists the world over                                                              
have proved time again how crucial the Arctic's physical                                                                        
environment is to the rest of the planet.  The third "e" is                                                                     
ethnocentrism.  Largely euro-American legislative bodies have                                                                   
ignored the situation of its cognitive first peoples.  This is                                                                  
illogical and immoral.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD asked him if he had ever visited the ANWR.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. YAKOUBIAN said he and Julie hadn't been beyond the Brooks                                                                   
Range.  They have been to Cold Foot and have read extensive                                                                     
literature by people who have been in the operating areas for                                                                   
various reasons.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD said his statements are unfortunate and unfair                                                                 
especially since he had never been to the areas.  The description                                                               
of garbage all over the place is not true.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. YAKOUBIAN responded that Kuparuk was a lot different than                                                                   
Prudhoe Bay.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLY DUNNE, Homer resident, opposed HJR 11.  He disagreed that                                                             
development of the ANWR oil fields would help offset our declining                                                              
oil revenues.  ANWR is federal property and we would not get much                                                               
in the way of royalties from it.  ANWR is no more owned by Alaskans                                                             
than the Statue of Liberty is owned by the state of New York.  It                                                               
is a national treasure.  At one point Senator Murkowski commented                                                               
that ANWR should be called the Arctic Refuge, because it is a                                                                   
wildlife refuge.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN proposed amending HJR 11 to add a phrase that may                                                               
have been accidentally left out: "WHEREAS the state will ensure the                                                             
continued health and productivity of the Porcupine caribou herd and                                                             
the protection of land, water, and wildlife resources during the                                                                
exploration of development of the coastal plain of the Arctic                                                                   
National Wildlife Refuge and..."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 310                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD announced it would go on page 2, line 31.  There                                                               
were no objections and the amendment carried.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS directed their attention to a technical                                                                 
amendment on page 2, line 4 noting the word "imported" should be                                                                
"imports".                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PEARCE said that she had a letter from the Mayor of the                                                                 
North Slope Borough that was written to President Clinton regarding                                                             
Secretary of Interior Babbitt's support of the proposed wilderness                                                              
designation for ANWR that she wanted entered into the record.  The                                                              
point is that the people who live in the coastal plain and across                                                               
the North Slope for thousands of years would prove that the Arctic                                                              
is not an untouched wilderness never visited by man.  People have                                                               
called it home as long as the caribou have calved.  They believe                                                                
they best know how to work with the federal and state agencies on                                                               
how to protect the coastal plain.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
An erroneous inference made, SENATOR PEARCE said, by a gentleman                                                                
from Fairbanks that Alyeska was somehow hiding something by all the                                                             
security they have at Pump Station 1 and along the pipeline.  She                                                               
explained that security is required by the U.S. Department of                                                                   
Transportation who has the oversight authority through the right-                                                               
of-way permit for the pipeline and Alyeska would just as soon not                                                               
pay for all their security which is primarily to insure there are                                                               
no terrorist attacks.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD asked because we have legislation pending making                                                               
this area wilderness, would it be wise to not only state we would                                                               
like to see the coastal plain of ANWR open for exploration, but                                                                 
also that we oppose the designation of the coastal plain portion of                                                             
ANWR as wilderness.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS responded that would be a perfectly logical                                                             
amendment to put in.  She would be glad to work up another                                                                      
resolution.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD said they could add another "Further Resolved".                                                                
He announced an at ease from 3:35 to 3:40 p.m.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD announced there was a proposed amendment on page                                                               
3, line 7 after the request for opening to insert "and that the                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature is adamantly opposed to further wilderness                                                             
or other restrictive federal designations in the area of the                                                                    
coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PARNELL moved the amendment.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN objected because the Arctic village of Venetie in                                                               
her district depends heavily on the Porcupine caribou herd and she                                                              
thought they would be in opposition to the designation of                                                                       
wilderness.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD asked if she meant they support the designation of                                                             
wilderness.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN said yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD said he respected that position and said she could                                                             
check that with them before it comes to the floor for a vote.  He                                                               
asked for those in favor of the amendment to raise their hands.                                                                 
SENATORS PARNELL, GREEN, PETE KELLY, and HALFORD voted yes; SENATOR                                                             
LINCOLN voted no and the amendment carried.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN said she wasn't speaking on behalf of the Tanana                                                                
Chief's Conference, but she did have a conversation in which they                                                               
expressed their opposition to the resolution, but hadn't yet                                                                    
testified or written a letter to that effect.  She added that she                                                               
truly believed that Arctic Village and Venetie utilize the                                                                      
Porcupine caribou herd in every aspect of their lives.  There is no                                                             
question in her mind that the folks would die without that herd.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD responded that he believed development on the                                                                  
coastal plain would not in any way harm that herd, but he                                                                       
understands their concern.  History of oil development has proven                                                               
that herds have not been significantly damaged, particularly when                                                               
the proposed development is a smaller footprint than Washington                                                                 
National Airport.  There is also a substantial opinion that                                                                     
development can occur with no negative impact on that herd and on                                                               
calving in that area.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PARNELL moved to pass SCSHJR 11(RES) from committee with                                                                
individual recommendations.  There were no objections and it was so                                                             
ordered.                                                                                                                        

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